Jim, You are a proving my point about the danger of mob rule. Look at what you are saying! I'm not like "everyone else," you say? So, I am a whining minority? The Democrats in the country really are revealing their true colors these days. Keep talking. People need to see how you attack your presumed opposition. You are a collectivist of the worst kind and based on your behavior here you represent everything wrong with our Republic. I am an individualist and I think our country was founded on the principles of individual rights, not just for some, but for all individuals living here. I am not a conservative, so stop calling me that. It makes you look stupid. Both major parties are corrupt to the core. You are the one leveling personal attacks at me just because I use a phrase so appropriate for the government the Progressives on both sides of the aisle have built for the last hundred years: the nanny state. You can say that a big government is needed, which is a ridiculous pragmatic argument, but the fact remains that we haven't the means to economically sustain it. That much should be clear to all.