Isis threat to America.

Discussion in 'Other Conflicts' started by lionzfire122, Jul 7, 2014.

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Do you think ISIS is a threat?

  1. yes

    66.7%
  2. no

    33.3%
  1. thomas pendrake

    thomas pendrake Active Member

    Selling or giving armaments to our allies in Europe was not staying out of the war. Have you heard the term "lend-lease"? It was pretty much give, we did not get paid. Look at the numbers for the number of troops we sent. Our participation was not trivial. My parents and other family lived through that period and I was born into a world still dominated by it. My father participated in building the air force (I remember seeing the personal letter to him from Billy Mitchell asking his help). He was part of the air ranger group that flew alongside the black sheep squadron of the marines. I was very aware of how much our nation participated in the second world war. Obviously you are not.
     
  2. Interrogator#6

    Interrogator#6 Active Member

    The headline of this line of discussion is "Is ISIS/ISIL a threat to the US?" It seems to have taken a weird tangent, one again rehashing WWII history. Now, while I have nothing against a good WWII discussion, I find it somewhat myoptic to funnel all of human existence into a discussion of that six year conflict.

    Gentlemen, MOVE your arguement. Let me get this inquiry into ISIS/ISIL restarted, please.
     
  3. jrj1701

    jrj1701 Member

    Sorry that I started this tangent, I had a point that was relevant to our current crisis. @thomas pendrake I strongly disagree with the role that some try to place the U.S. in. The U.S. has a horrible track record when it comes to our misadventures overseas and I have found the rhetoric used to justify U.S. involvement against ISIS/ISIL to be full of errors and I can get distracted in trying to present my point. Certain facts have been swept under the rug and removed from consideration because of political loyalties to either of the two dominant political parties in the U.S. The U.S. needs to stop interfering in the development of other countries and the U.S. needs to stop taking sides in the internal conflicts of other countries, we have more than enough problems here at home to settle. I have maintained that ISIS/ISIL is not a threat to the U.S. despite what those who want us involved in others affairs say. There is evidence that the U.S. has directly supplied ISIL in Libya and there is the possibility that the U.S. is supplying ISIS in Syria. Yet the call to investigate this goes unheeded because of U.S. politricks.
     
  4. thomas pendrake

    thomas pendrake Active Member

    Considering that ISIL has made warfare directly against the US a major part of their agenda it is difficult to understand how we can ignore them. They have called for attacksin the US and apparently a number of attacks have been thwarted. They have been responsible for a number of attacks in Europe. Can you give references for any creditable proof that we have supplied any aid to ISIL, other than weapons that they have captured?
     
  5. Interrogator#6

    Interrogator#6 Active Member

    A great American once said: "The only thing we have to fear is Fear itself".

    To put too much weight to the ISIS/ISIL threat to the US is buying into the Fear. Yes, IS has made rhetorical threats but it seems their action(s) have been limited to Europe. The rest is hearsay -- circumstantial at best, provided by the fearmongers whose task is to keep the country on edge.

    Politically it is in the interests of the US Republican Party to keep the voters in fear, so they might vote "R".

    As I wrote months ago: Carry on, be vigilant, but don't panic.
     
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  6. thomas pendrake

    thomas pendrake Active Member

    Roosevelt was talking about economic conditions, but he was totally aware of the growing threat posed by both fascism and the expansionism of Japan. The fanaticism of ISIL is directly related to the fanaticism of the NAZIS. In fact, I would not be in the least surprised to find a direct link, considering the links that Hitler had with Islamic factions.
     
  7. djordjem87

    djordjem87 New Member

    I am not sure about this because to be honest ISIS is a kind of a USA project and if any attacks happen on the American soil it will be isolated and small. I believe this time France was chosen as the victim and probably some other parts of Europe as well. All the cover ups and diversions are for public. This ISIS thing is giving everyone a reason to stay in the Middle East. We will see how it will end.
     
  8. Interrogator#6

    Interrogator#6 Active Member

    Why are agents of ISIS/ISIL attacking in France? Is it because of some connection wit the NSDAP (Nazis) of yesteryear? Possibly, but unlikely. I think it much more likely due to the longstanding relationship between Syria and the French.

    With the end of the Great War and the Versailes Treaty France and Britain high-handedly usurped the Middle East, redrew the map and reniged on promises so as to take dominions for themselves. Syria learned to speak French while Palestine learned English. No consideration was given for religious sects, neighbourhoods, ethnic groups, et cetera.

    Of course Syrians are going to attack their colonial masters.
     
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  9. Theodore Rainford

    Theodore Rainford explorerx7

    Isis is a threat to everyone. Don't be naive in believing that the United States is invincible so it cannot be penetrated by ISIS. ISIS would be foolhardy to openly wage an attack on the US, however, we are aware of their dirty terrorist tactics. We have seen what they did in France and what their symphatizers had done in Pasadena.
     
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  10. Kate

    Kate Active Member

    Yes... I just keep thinking "there are none so blind as those who refuse to see". I probably paraphrased that somewhat, but the thought is the same.

    I have a real problem with the "look the other way in oblivion and hope it goes away" mentality. If we could do that, we could make everything from cancer to drug abuse go away without ever having to lift a finger. Now there's a thought.
     
  11. Diptangshu

    Diptangshu Active Member

    Now those days ... have gone and this may be renamed as The US threat to ISIS . lol ...
     
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  12. jrj1701

    jrj1701 Member

    And it has turned out that ISIS/ISIL has not been a threat to the US.
     
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  13. Diptangshu

    Diptangshu Active Member

    And now this would be the most authentic time for white widow Sally Jones with Jojo to play guiter in Absolute Peace and that Fixed by drone!
    Though the Express expressed 'this' another way...
     
  14. jrj1701

    jrj1701 Member

    Sally Jones is supposedly is no longer able to play because of drones criticizing her playing.
     
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  15. Diptangshu

    Diptangshu Active Member

    Well but what I'm here thinking of my best is that our drones are Educated (not literate like Those filthy creatures) enough as well as busy enough to eliminate These parasites as soon as possible, rathar than criticizing that punk guitarist who lived on benefits, even on our mercy! If it so, then I think dude we've not 'trained' our drones in a Right way lol...
    Am I incorrect in my 'course'?
     
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  16. jrj1701

    jrj1701 Member

    You have to understand how drones criticize. They criticize with bullets and missiles not words.
     

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