Info wanted on aircrew KIA

Discussion in 'The War in the Air' started by clivetemple, Jul 9, 2009.

  1. clivetemple New Member

    Hi Guys,
    I know many of you have access to resources other than CWGC or Lost Bombers. If anyone has any info (esp. circumstances of their death) on these men that are on CWGC but not on Lost Bombers I'd be very grateful...

    • Sgt (Obs) H. P. Black/90 Sqn/22 Jun 41/Catterick Cemetery, England
    • Flt. Sgt. W. H. Boon/252 Sqn/9 Feb 44/Alamein Memorial
    • Sgt. S. E. Bradshaw/61 Sqn/23 Jun 42/Sage Cemetery, Germany
    • Sgt. (Pilot) G. E. Carden/Sqn not known/26 May 42/Addlestone, Surrey
    • Flt. Sgt. C. F. Carter/Sqn not known/29 Dec 45/Mitcham Rd Cemetery, Croydon
    • P/O W. J. Drew/44 Sqn/18 Aug 43/Runnymede memorial
    • Cpl. J. H. Eastaugh/RAFVR/25 Mar 43/Khartoum cemetery, Sudan
    • F/O W. J. Hart/RAFVR/3 Feb 43/Runnymede
    • P/O C. E. Horwood/489 Sqn RNZAF/2 Oct 41/Thoraby, Yorks

    Thanks in advance pals.
  2. Kyt Άρης

    Sgt (Obs) H. P. Black/90 Sqn/22 Jun 41/Catterick Cemetery, England
    B-17 AN522 crashed near Catterick Bridge, Yorkshire when control was lost during high altitude test and broke up

    Flt. Sgt. W. H. Boon/252 Sqn/9 Feb 44/Alamein Memorial
    One of three Beaufighters shotdown by Me109s off Patmos (one of the islands between Greece and Turkey). Most probably LZ271

    Sgt. S. E. Bradshaw/61 Sqn/23 Jun 42/Sage Cemetery, Germany
    Lancaster R5517 mission to Emden

    P/O W. J. Drew/44 Sqn/18 Aug 43/Runnymede memorial
    Lancaster JA897 mission to Peenemunde


    F/O W. J. Hart/RAFVR/3 Feb 43/Runnymede
    Halifax DT503 of 1 Overseas Aircraft Despatch Unit, on ferry flight from England to Gibraltar. Lost without trace


    P/O C. E. Horwood/489 Sqn RNZAF/2 Oct 41/Thoraby, Yorks

    Took off 12.30 hrs from Leuchars in his Beaufort N1075 for solo training, but crashed in the mouth of the river Eden on the approach. His body was later recovered off Thornaby

    __________

    Sgt. (Pilot) G. E. Carden/Sqn not known/26 May 42/Addlestone, Surrey
    No details found yet

    Flt. Sgt. C. F. Carter/Sqn not known/29 Dec 45/Mitcham Rd Cemetery, Croydon
    No aircraft crash recorded for that date involving him, and cannot find him in Flight magazine.

    Cpl. J. H. Eastaugh/RAFVR/25 Mar 43/Khartoum cemetery, Sudan
    Also killed Squadron Leader HERBERT LLEWELLYN RAVENSHAW MORGAN and AC1 CYRIL WRIGHT, CYRIL but no details yet
  3. clivetemple New Member

    Thanks again Kyt, much appreciated... can I trouble you for a few more?

    Sgt. I W Jenkins/25 Jun 45/Runnymede
    Flt Lt L. M. Lewis/7 Sep 44/buried Surrey
    Flt Sgt L. M. Lewis/24 Jan 45/buried Machynlleth, Wales
    Flt Sgt D. R. Lord/13 Aug 42/buried Surrey
    Flt Sgt H. W. Macdonald/140 Sqn/18 Mar 43 - cremated in Surrey, I know this was some type of flying accident
    P/O A. J. McDonnell/601 Sqn/13 Feb 42/buried Tadcaster
    P/O B. W. Miles/199 Sqn/10 Feb 44/buried Surrey - I know this was a flying accident
    Sgt H. Moren/249 Sqn/20 Dec 41/Malta memorial
    Flt Lt K. W. Noble - Buried in Ayrshire - tricky one, I'm told he doesn't appear in the usual records. Accident?
  4. Kyt Άρης

    Sgt. I W Jenkins/25 Jun 45/Runnymede
    Tiger Moth DE215 of 15EFTS Crashed Ullswater
    Navigation exercise. Pilot allowed unauthorised control of aircraft whilst flying low over lake, and Jenkins (who was the Navigator) allowed undercarriage to strike water. Pilot survived. The Board of Enquiry criticised the unit for its failures, including not removing control column from navigator’s seat.


    Flt Lt L. M. Lewis/7 Sep 44/buried Surrey... odd one this as he is gazetted as retiring in July 1944.
    He relinquished his commission due to ill-health but may still have been on active service when he died of his illness.

    Flt Sgt L. M. Lewis/24 Jan 45/buried Machynlleth, Wales
    Rather than repeating the info:
    F/S Leonard Maldwyn Lewis - 1653266 - Died 24/1/45 - 14 Sqd - RafCommands Forums

    Flt Sgt D. R. Lord/13 Aug 42/buried Surrey
    He was pilot of Defiant L6981 of 1484 Flight which crashed during gunnery training at Scurfdike Farm, near Hutton Cranswick. Also killed was Sgt. Arthur Owen Potts.

    Flt Sgt H. W. Macdonald/140 Sqn/18 Mar 43
    Blenheim N3612. A flash bomb exploded under aircraft on release at Odstone bombing range blowing off tail. F/O R Jones RNZAF and F/O S Cotton also killed. 140 was an Army Co-Operation squadron

    P/O A. J. McDonnell/601 Sqn/13 Feb 42/buried Tadcaster
    Airacobra AH602 see first two posts:
    Airacobra, 601 Sqdn AH602 12 Jan 42 Crash - RafCommands Forums


    P/O B. W. Miles/199 Sqn/10 Feb 44/buried Surrey - I know this was a flying accident
    Stirling EF153 Aircraft took off Lakenheath at 22.30 on SOE operation and crashed 10 mins later near Brandon Rd and Shakers Rd, Lakenheath. Believed a serious technical fault had developed with undercarriage as the unit was being manualy wound to the up position when he accident occurred

    F/Lt Alan Ernest Allson RAFVR - Pilot - killed
    Sgt Herbert Royston George RAFVR Flight Engineer - killed
    P/O Bertram William Miles RAFVR Navigator - killed
    WO2 Robert Louis Sanderson RCAF Air Bomber - killed
    Sgt K. Hallbrooks - Wireless Op - injured
    Sgt B.E. Challis -Gunner - injured
    Sgt L.J. Davies - Gunner - injured


    Sgt H. Moren/249 Sqn/20 Dec 41/Malta memorial
    Killed whilst attacking enemy bombers which were attempting to bomb Malta’s Grand Harbour, it is believed his Hurricane crashed into a German Ju-88. I don’t have a serial number.

    Flt Lt K. W. Noble - Buried in Ayrshire - tricky one, I'm told he doesn't appear in the usual records. Accident?

    Haven't found a loss yet but:

    Name: NOBLE, KEITH WELLS (PETER)
    Initials: K W
    Nationality: United Kingdom
    Rank: Flight Lieutenant (Pilot)
    Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
    Age: 22
    Date of Death: 08/02/1944
    Service No: 118390
    Additional information: Son of Maj. Frank Noble, M.C., T.D., and Annie Florence Noble, of Felpham, Bognor Regis, Sussex.
    Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
    Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. E. (White) Grave 280.
    Cemetery: DUNURE CEMETERY
  5. clivetemple New Member

    Kyt, you are an absolute star. You'll have guessed that I'm no historian, just someone who wants to try and ensure these men are remembered. Someone felt the same as me because the school roll of honour was removed before it was refurbished (actually to become a police station... hmmmmm). Anything such as an aircraft s/n allows me to go off on my merry way and try and flesh out the info. Links would be appreciated so I can credit the info.

    May as well give you the others as you're on a roll LOL...

    F/O JF Painter (DFC)/killed in air crash/buried Surrey - got CWGC
    Sgt Obs. HS Parrott/53 Sqn/killed in air crash/buried Hants - got CWGC
    F/O GV Proudman (MID)/65 Sqn/7 Jul 40/Runnymede
    Sgt GP Rowe/59 Sqn/26 Jul 40/Runnymede - got CWGC
    Sgt. RW Studman/16 Jan 46/buried Surrey - got CWGC
    F/O JW Uderhill/159 Sqn/10 Nov 44/Singapore memorial - got CWGC
    Aircraftsman 1st class Neville Wade/10 Nov 43/buried Surrey - got CWGC
    Flt Sgt BJ Ward/227 Sqn/5 Jan 43/Malta memorial - got CWGC
    W/O LJ Ware (DFM)/Heliopolis
    Flt Sgt FK Whitall/3 Sqn/18 May 43/Runnymede - got CWGC
    F/O Instructor RC Wood/3 Jun 43/buried Surrey - got CWGC
  6. Kyt Άρης

    F/O JF Painter (DFC)/killed in air crash/buried Surrey
    Whitley N1440 of 19 OTU. Took off Kinloss with a screened pilot, 3 pupil pilots and 2 wireless operators. While flying at 1200 feet, near Forress, Moray, the nose dropped suddenly and diving steeply, it smashed into the ground at burst into flames

    There is a memorial to the crew at:
    19 OTU, RAF,Roll of Honour, Sgt H D Gaywood.


    Sgt Obs. HS Parrott/53 Sqn/killed in air crash/buried Hants

    From The Bristol Blenheim by Warner
    Blenheim V5420 crashed when it overshot landing during heavy rain after air test, Thorney Island. Also killed were P/O S R E Weatherle
    and Sgt S McAndrew

    F/O GV Proudman (MID)/65 Sqn/7 Jul 40/Runnymede

    From Fighter Command Losses Vol 1
    Spitfire R6615 shot down by Bf109 near Folkestone and Proudman killed

    Sgt GP Rowe/59 Sqn/26 Jul 40/Runnymede

    From: The other few By Larry Donnelly

    Blenheim T1801 which failed to return from a night bombing raid on Cherbourg. Also killed were P/O M R Turnbull and Sgt D Wallace

    Sgt. RW Studman/16 Jan 46/buried Surrey

    Reported as Died on Active Service so either sickness or non-service related accident

    F/O JW Uderhill/159 Sqn/10 Nov 44/Singapore memorial

    http://www.rquirk.com/splflt/draft.pdf

    Liberator BZ939 took off at 15.23 hrs. on 10.11.44 on special operation in Rangoon - Moulmein - Mergui area reported missing. No message was received from the aircraft and no information available.

    The crew consisted of F/O Underhill J. W. (Capt.),
    F/S L. J. Coles (2/P)
    F/S Adams K. (Nav.B)
    Sgt. Holt J. H. (F/E)
    F/Sgt. Watson, R. (Wop/AG)
    Sgt. Ayres, A. C. (Wop/AG)
    Sgt. Jones T. J. (Wop/AG)
    Sgt. Evans, A. V. (Wop/AG)
    F/Sgt. Ambler E. E. (Wop/AG).


    Flt Sgt BJ Ward/227 Sqn/5 Jan 43/Malta memorial

    Shotdown in Beaufighter (need to find serial). Also killed Sergeant John Lawrence CHARLTON

    W/O LJ Ware (DFM)/Heliopolis

    Seems to be an issue how he was killed:
    <CENTER><img src= "http://www.rafcommands.com/rafcommandsbanner.gif"><BR> - "108 Maintenance Unit M.E"


    Flt Sgt FK Whitall/3 Sqn/18 May 43/Runnymede

    Shotdown in Typhoon DN246 whilst on a Ramrod around Cayeux. One of four Typhoons lost by the squadron that morning to Me109s

    F/O Instructor RC Wood/3 Jun 43/buried Surrey

    Mid-air collision. See:
    "My" UnAccounted Airmen 03/06/1943 - RafCommands Forums

    Aircraftsman 1st class Neville Wade/10 Nov 43/buried Surrey

    I cannot find him on the casualty files. Will keep looking
  7. clivetemple New Member

    Thanks Kyt, much appreciated.
  8. clivetemple New Member

    Carden was 'killed on active service' according to the local paper. His father was Asst Contracts Manager at Vickers. He probably knew my Grandad. I haven't got any more info though.
  9. me474 New Member

    61 sqdn and 44 sqdn aircrew

    bradshaw r5517 no cause of loss and no place of loss.bradshaw is buried in the sage cemetery.ja897,p/o drew,a/c was shot down by a n/fighter flown by lt peter spoden,11/njg5,flying from griefswald.a/c was hit between the inner and outer port engines which set the wing fuel tanks alight.a/c crashed at forst hagen,between hanshagen and griefswald at 01.55 hrs.hope this helps,
  10. clivetemple New Member

  11. me474 New Member

    aircrew killed in action

    clive,the n/fighter pilot responsible for the demise of p/o drew's lancaster has a book on his wartime experiences.titled enemy in the dark,isbn no is1841450324,printed by cerberus publishing.chapter ten deals with ja879,it was his first night victory.regards graham
  12. clivetemple New Member

    Nice one, thanks.

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