British POWs in Siberia?

Discussion in 'Prisoners of War' started by Kyt, May 12, 2008.

  1. Kyt

    Kyt Άρης

    The Iron Cage: Are British Prisoners of War Abandoned in Soviet Hands Still Alive in Siberia? Nigel Cawthorne

    Whilst looking for something else I came across this. It's a sample of what seems to be a very interesting book. Printed copies are available or an online download for £3.25.

    Authors OnLine - The Iron Cage by Nigel Cawthorne
    (click View Sample)
  2. Brian S

    Brian S Guest

    Iron Cage

    I believe I have a copy hidden away somewhere. I wouldn't be surprised myself if the Russians hadn't held on to some of the many thousands of P.O.W. from the Camps they Liberated in 1945.
    Many came home by ship through Odessa arranged by 30 Mission who were based in Moscow.
  3. Kyt

    Kyt Άρης

    I've just acquired a tatty copy.

    One statement that intrugues me:

    Does anyone have a list of POWs from Arnhem and/or Stalag 4B? Would be interesting to find out who he was.
  4. David Layne

    David Layne Active Member

    One man, Frank Kelly, a Lewisham lad captured by the Germans at Arnhem and ‘liberated’ from Stalag 4B, had been returned in 1953 after eight years in a Soviet prison. He was immediately arrested by the British authorities for being absent without leave and his story was quickly dropped.

    I always view reports like this with a degree of skepticism. Surely after 55 years something would have come out, if nothing else a best selling book.
  5. Kyt

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    Well the book is available - as posted in #1. What seems to be intriguing from what I've read so far is that the US Senate, and the Russians, has been taking this seriously for quite a long time, but the Brits still deny any knowledge.

    And there is evidence that POWs remained. The author interviewed a French POW who was forced to stay after he was released from a gulag. He managed to get to the French embassy in the early 1980s but they didn't believe him. It wasn't until the early 90s that he finally managed to visit France again.

    And the fact that most of the POWs, be they French, US or British (including Commonwealth) were listed as Missing meant that most families didn't chase this up. It was only after the Vietnam war ended and those families in the US started chasing up MIAs that information about possible cover ups from the Korean war and WW2 started appearing.
  6. liverpool annie

    liverpool annie New Member

    This is interesting !! ..... wonder if there was anything else found ??

    Annie :)
  7. Brian S

    Brian S Guest

    Missing P.O.W.

    In 1955 the Chinese released four American Airmen taken prisoner in Korea.

    A file in T.N.A. dated 1959 is described as follows.- Possible return to UK from China of Marine Andrew *******,a defector,while a P.O.W. during war in Korea.

    There are other files that contain reports on Communist indoctrination of British P.O.W. in North Korea.

    All Wars have their Psychological casualties as well as physical ones.
  8. Kyt

    Kyt Άρης

    I did end up reading The Iron Cage and though he didn't find clear evidence, or actual surviving British POWs, he did find some who claimed to be French and from other nations. What was most interesting was the political reasons for the Soviet actions, expecially their use of US and Allied POWs as bargaining tools to get the allies to return those eastern Europeans who had been taken POW whilst serving with the Germans.

    And i also found circumstantial evidence very convincing.

    Coincidently this review has just appeared of another, similar, book:

    Americans in the Gulag | Chained ghosts | The Forsaken: From the Great Depression to the Gulags - Hope and Betrayal in Stalin's Russia: Tim Tzouliadis: Books
  9. Brian S

    Brian S Guest

    Red Cross

    I am surprised at the attitude of the American Red Cross considering their Magnificent efforts during WW2 which saved many thousands from starvation.
  10. Kyt

    Kyt Άρης

    There appear to be a number of issues about what National RC societies have been willing to do, and their ties with their nation's policies, compared to the IRCC. There seem to be a number of contoversies related to the activities of the ARC, ones not pertanent to this discussion. But I found this interesting (and a possible reason for non-intervention by the ARC in the above):

    International humanitarianism in the contemporary world: forms and issues

  11. Roxy

    Roxy Member

    I read this book about 15 years ago and found it quite convincing. Much of the evidence was circumstantial - and I was much less cynical! Nevertheless, it is an interesting read. He wrote another book about American POW in Vietnam - The Bamboo Cage.

  12. David Layne

    David Layne Active Member

    "Kiss The Boys Goodbye" is a book written that deals with P.O.W.'s left behind after the Vietnam War.

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