Allies 'massacred' German civilians, says author

Discussion in 'Books and Films' started by Kyt, Oct 11, 2008.

  1. Kyt

    Kyt Άρης

    Firebomb fury: Allies 'massacred' German civilians, says author Fire and Fury: The Allied Bombing of Germany 1942--1945: Randall Hansen: Books
  2. Adrian Roberts

    Adrian Roberts Active Member

    This debate will run and run. But the article below suggests the opposite, that the casualty figures at Dresden were much lower than some figures suggest, less than 25000 rather than 500,000. Not that 25000 dead civilians is anything other than terrible, but the fact that one can say "only" is in the context of what is still the bloodiest war in history. And the interesting thing about this article is that it is German researchers who are suggesting the lower figure. It is also pointing out that it is the German Far-Right who have a vested interest in claiming a higher figure. This puts them in an unholy alliance with the anti-establishment Left in Britain and Canada who use the higher figures for their own ends. It is very bad history to say that Britain, or Harris in particular, invented the concept of indiscriminate bombing.

    Dresden bombing death toll lower than thought - Telegraph

  3. Antipodean Andy

    Antipodean Andy New Member

    An interesting counter argument, AR. I was going to make exactly the same comment re what the "other" side did. If they're going to argue about Dresden and the bombing campaign, perhaps they need to first consider Conventry, Rotterdam, Warsaw etc

    Glass houses and stones come to mind. I'm not starting a "we did not start it" argument, just that nothing like this can be looked at in isolation.
  4. Kyt

    Kyt Άρης

    Maybe not the first but one of the most vocal voices on the "higher figures" debate is David Irving, and we all know where he stands.

    David Irving - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Unfortunately, at the time of the book coming out Irving was still considered a genuine historian, and such his work has been citedin many books afterwards. So a lot of people are now conviced that the higher figures are the true ones, and that it is the new lower figures that are revisionist!!
  5. spidge

    spidge Active Member

    This misinformation will continue to raise it's head by those who determine their numbers by (as you say) discredited historians.

    You also have people analysing the actions taken by those in wartime with their personal morals in the 21st century.

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