Discussion in 'World War 2' started by Keith, Feb 22, 2010.
Can anyone recognise this beautiful beast
Air Quiz 2
Scratch your heads over this one
arrrrrrrrrrrgh! first one looks like a deriviative of the Dakota, but its obviously not, and the second one is some kind of experimental aircraft! this is going to drive me mental
Is it just you and me !!!!!!!!
What I will say is that all my entries will be of British Design and Manufacture.
An easy oddball,
As Mr MacEnroe said ?????????????????
How about a very strange looking Vickers Wellesley
Full marks for the strange looking Vickers Wellesley, like the Wellington Bomber geodectic structure a la Barnes Wallis.
176 being used by the RAF and had a very good war-time record, worth delving into, check that wingspan!!!!!!!!!
The one illustrated is the Mk.I, the mark II had a continuous canopy. 3 view added for interest.
You were also right about the Stirling, however the most notable features were the Nazi markings, this was because it was captured after a crash landing, partially repaired, and flown by them for info on handling etc.
ps.sorry this was written before checking your link.
The first one you posted is a De Havilland DH91 Albatross; originally an Imperial Airways/BOAC airliner; this one is in RAF colours. Among the most beautiful aeroplanes ever, but would have been a commercial flop even if WW2 had not broken out - nothing it could do that a DC3 couldn't do more cheaply. Its main contribution to history was that its wooden construction helped DH in the design of the Mosquito, and considering that the prototype Albatross broke in half on landing, they certainly gained from the experience.
The second one is a Bristol Buckingham, unsuccessful bomber competitor to the Mosquito, or possibly the Buckmaster trainer version.
The reason the Wellesley looks strange is that it is the early version; the better-known later ones had a long "greenhouse" canopy, rather than the two seperate cockpits.
You're perfect in your answers and yes it is a beautiful aircraft, dare I say almost as attractive as the Spitfire with the same type of gorgeous lines.
Well I've done a bit how about a couple of obscure examples from you and CXX.
Give me a day or so, I've stayed a bit long on other sites tonight!
Ok, I doubt I will be able to come up with anything obscure enough to tax all of you, but try these.
I can't promise they will be British, but they will be more or less WW2.
Second photo = Martine PBM Mariner
The first Martin PBM Mariner flying boats were produced in April 1941, and the last were manufactured eight years later. The Mariner underwent a few modifications and versions in its lifespan, and served well wherever it was used.
For more photos, history, and info on this aircraft, see the PBM webpage at vpnavy.com
Additional information on this aircraft can be found at Wikipedia here.
(updated February 2009)
Martin PBM-3D Mariner
Type: seven/eight-seat patrol flying boat
Armament: eight .50 cal machine guns
up to 8,000 lbs. of bombs or depth charges
Length: 79' 10" (24.33 m)
Height: 27' 6" (8.38 m)
Wingspan: 118' 0" (35.97 m)
Wing area: 1408 sq. ft (130.80 sq. m)
Empty Weight: 33,175 lb (15,048 kg)
Max Weight: 58,000 lb (26,308 kg) max at takeoff
No. of Engines: 2
Powerplant: Wright R-2660-22 Cyclone radial
Horsepower: 1900 hp each
Range: 2240 miles (3605 km)
Cruise Speed: (not listed)
Max Speed: 211 mph ( 340 km/h) at 1500 ft
Ceiling: 19,800 ft (6035 m)
First photo = Westland Wyvern?
Sorry I can't post a pic in reply as I am, for some reason, not able to add attachments (pics) to my posts.
Right about the Martin PBM Mariner, but not the other one.
I can see why you think Wyvern, but this one is a much smaller aeroplane and was only ever a prototype.
Martin-Baker MB 5.
I have complicated things by asking two questions at once that were answered by different people, so I guess the next question will have to be set by whichever of CXX or Andy gets there first.
Rather than muck around looking for something tricky, I'll go with something easy. What are the aircraft in my signature pic?
Surely it can't be this one ???????
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