Jesus in? I guess I didn't read that part. Kate, I am sure that Tom meant Jesus Ramirez, the old ball player out of Cuba. I am equally sure that he would never, ever use Jesus the Christ to further his "Hate," speech and program that was set forth by ignorant people trying to teach smarter people about something that did not happen. If we remember back to the good old days when O'Bama was first running for president it was he that said that older senior citizens did not need surgery any longer and that giving them a pill was more effective. (since we were all going to die out soon anyway) The opposition called it the advent of death panels because it was a panel in O'Bama's suggestion box that would decide who got surgery and who didn't. Oh yes Kate, we cannot down some people for their lack of knowledge regarding O'Bama care, because they just might not have to have it. Ya know, medicare, medicaid? When a certain person does not have to use a bad thing it is easy to recommend it to others. These folks just need to get rid of the bad case of opticalrectumitis that's going around so said person can join in on the actual topics in the forum like all of the other kids in the sandbox do. Opticalrectumitis? Nerves in the eyes get tangled with those in the rectum and the patient gets a crappy outlook on life. O'Bama care won't pay for the cure but I hear it is rempant especially in Florida. Let's see, Military history forum.....In 1814 took a little trip, along...... no, there is another holiday somewhere.......Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!!