Chinese Schindler

Discussion in 'World War 2' started by Kyt, Apr 5, 2009.

  1. Kyt

    Kyt Άρης

    Photo exhibition of humanitarian work by "Chinese Schindler" held in Shanghai_English_Xinhua

     
  2. Kyt

    Kyt Άρης

  3. vashstampede

    vashstampede Active Member

    Well, there were at least 50,000 Jews in Shanghai to escape from Nazis. They had only temporary peace.

    The Japanese had occupied Shanghai since 1937 after the Battle of Shanghai... a 3-month bloodbath.


    While initially the Japanese didn't touch the Jews, they finally gave in the pressure from Nazi Germany and rounded up all Jews. However, Jews weren't treated any more "special". Since the broke out of Pacific War, Japan took over all the international settlements in Shanghai and rounded up all foreigners (British, French, Americans, etc.). Still the local Chinese were treated much worse.
     
  4. Vladimir

    Vladimir Siberian Tiger

    What happened to them? And what happened when the Japanese were driven off from China?

    Never thought there could be 50,000 Jews in China.
     
  5. vashstampede

    vashstampede Active Member

    They were of course freed along with many other foreigners in China from the Japanese concentration camp when Japan surrendered in 1945. Most of them left China in the next a few years. I would think the destination are mostly United States or Israel.

    During the time of inside the concentration camp, the camps lacked food and medication. Not only that the Japanese didn't care about their prisoners, but the Japanese themselves also lacked those supplies toward the end of the war. Those who had Chinese friends would threw food into the camp over the wall.
     
  6. Vladimir

    Vladimir Siberian Tiger

    Hmm.... same happened in the Warsaw ghetto as well. Sometime small arms were also smuggled in, along with the food items. That resulted in the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising. But then the Warsaw ghetto had a Jewish population of around 300,000, much higher than that of the Japanese concentration camps.
     
  7. RcNu

    RcNu Member

    Wow...
    So this guy helps the Jewish, but doesn't help
    his own people who were being EATEN alive by the Japanese?
    Priorities people!
     
  8. Vladimir

    Vladimir Siberian Tiger

    Those who helped the ethnic Han were quickly forgotten. Perhaps Chinese lives were not as precious as European lives.
     
  9. vashstampede

    vashstampede Active Member

    I have no idea what you guys are talking about. There are always people out there needing help, and you just can't help everyone...it is impossible to do so. So someone did help the people who they can help right there. I don't see a problem there.
     
  10. RcNu

    RcNu Member

    I don't know if you were referring to my post, but I think its kind of strange that this guy was helping the jewish but not speaking out about the Japanese on Chinese genocide which was still going on at that very moment.
     
  11. Vercingetorix

    Vercingetorix Member

    It seems from the wiki article that he was a Chinese diplomat posted to Austria, who was thus in a unique position to help European Jews. It is difficult to see what he could have done for citizens of his own country from his desk in Vienna. Anyway, how can we criticize him for failing to save millions of Chinese? There were millions of other Chinese who could not save millions of Chinese either, so how is he to blame at all?
     
  12. RcNu

    RcNu Member

    Thats true.
    I think I was just in a mood that day.
    Sorry all **Gets off Soapbox**
     

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